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Researched this myself,it's egger board,I rang them,they said that u could tile onto it without the need for backer board or ditra,they said you can use a standard flexi adhesive,I mentioned to be on the safe side is it better to prime and lay ditra and they said yes,I now have got to go and have a look at the job as they have a problem with it,reading through the thread it is looking like I need to get an email to confirm this,I'm a little bit peaved as I made all the relevant calls to prevent any issues
 
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On the topic of the Quartz tiles I've done two Quartz jobs recently on the first one the tiles and adhesives were already on site I layed with a s1 adhesive,looking back I had no problems with that job,they weren't a cheap Quartz which I think as been the reason for not cupping.
On my next Quartz job they recommended using mapie granfix as its the water in s1 that can cause cupping,especially on the cheaper Quartz,so I used the mapie granfix as I don't want any call backs on my work,and all was good,at £40 a bag and bottle it better be,just wondered if anyone can recommend a decent reasonable supplier for my adhesives,I'm in the Hertfordshire area.
 
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On the topic of the Quartz tiles I've done two Quartz jobs recently on the first one the tiles and adhesives were already on site I layed with a s1 adhesive,looking back I had no problems with that job,they weren't a cheap Quartz which I think as been the reason for not cupping.
On my next Quartz job they recommended using mapie granfix as its the water in s1 that can cause cupping,especially on the cheaper Quartz,so I used the mapie granfix as I don't want any call backs on my work,and all was good,at £40 a bag and bottle it better be,just wondered if anyone can recommend a decent reasonable supplier for my adhesives,I'm in the Hertfordshire area.

You could try Apex Grange and they deliver Apex Grange Products

Just tiles in Harpenden does Tilemaster
 
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On the topic of the Quartz tiles I've done two Quartz jobs recently on the first one the tiles and adhesives were already on site I layed with a s1 adhesive,looking back I had no problems with that job,they weren't a cheap Quartz which I think as been the reason for not cupping.
On my next Quartz job they recommended using mapie granfix as its the water in s1 that can cause cupping,especially on the cheaper Quartz,so I used the mapie granfix as I don't want any call backs on my work,and all was good,at £40 a bag and bottle it better be,just wondered if anyone can recommend a decent reasonable supplier for my adhesives,I'm in the Hertfordshire area.
Try Tilemaster adhesives, give them a shout, if someone in the area has stock, they will let you know if not you may be lucky and get an account direct !
 
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Tilemaster S2 is there belt and braces...even Steel/Metal !!!
Just been reading the tec sheet for this S2 product, you would be advised to be completely sure of what the chipboard is before tiling onto it.
This is an extract for said sheet:

Please Note: Certain manufacturers of chipboard floorboard do not recommend their products for being tiled to directly due to the design of their particular board. If in doubt, please consult with the supplier of the board or alternatively contact our Technical Helpline on 01772 456831 for further advice.

just a shame you have to look so hard to find it, could end in tears if you don't know your wax coated from your resin coat or any other coated chip boards.
I'm sure it does stick tiles to chip board but are you able to screw down with close enough centres? Has the board been sealed on under side and edges to help with moisture ingress?
Surly easier to overboard or to replace with, say 22mm hardier boards than take the risk !
 
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Just been reading the tec sheet for this S2 product, you would be advised to be completely sure of what the chipboard is before tiling onto it.
This is an extract for said sheet:

Please Note: Certain manufacturers of chipboard floorboard do not recommend their products for being tiled to directly due to the design of their particular board. If in doubt, please consult with the supplier of the board or alternatively contact our Technical Helpline on 01772 456831 for further advice.

just a shame you have to look so hard to find it, could end in tears if you don't know your wax coated from your resin coat or any other coated chip boards.
I'm sure it does stick tiles to chip board but are you able to screw down with close enough centres? Has the board been sealed on under side and edges to help with moisture ingress?
Surly easier to overboard or to replace with, say 22mm hardier boards than take the risk !
Yes it is a shame that you need to look into all the fine print, I always use Dural matting or if in doubt use hardi backer board, I would never tile directly on timber weather it's chipboard/ waterproof / tounge and grove, plywood ...etc
 
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Sounds like I opened a can of worms here. I thought I may have been asking a stupid question but now I feel less bad about being confused. I'm definitely staying away from this job though. As much as enjoy doing everything myself I think there may be too many pitfalls in this one. My wife definately wants quartz so I will be getting someone (probably from recommendation on here) to fit them. At least I have some knowledge of how it should be approached and can ensure the correct materials and techniques are employed.

One thing that has been mentioned in a couple of the replies though is 'cheap quartz' I didn't think the tiles I was planning on buying were particularly cheap but they were roughly half what porcelenosa quoted me when I bought my downstairs tiles. They do do seem to be at the cheaper end of quartz but far from the cheapest floor tiles you can get. I don't want to pay someone to fit inferior quality products as i would like to not need to replace the floor for a long time. If anyone thinks I should be looking elsewhere for the tiles please feel free to advise. I've already learnt a lot from this thread, seems a shame to stop now.

Thanks everyone for taking the time to input (even though I'm sure some of you just love to argue ;) )

Mick
 

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